1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,960 <b>DEAR VIEWERS, THE VOICES OF SOME SPEAKERS </b><b>IN OUR FILM HAVE BEEN DISTORTED.</b> 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,000 <b>WE RECOMMEND ENABLING SUBTITLES </b><b>FOR BETTER COMPREHENSION.</b> 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,280 <b>You don't know what they're doing.</b> 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,119 <b>I didn't become a police officer to serve a corrupt system.</b> 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,519 <b>A mafia system.</b> 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,440 <b>This is how the fate of the country is decided.</b> 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,280 <b>We're picking this up now.</b> 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,800 <b>Hello?</b> 9 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,840 <b>It will be done around nine,</b> 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,760 <b>he'll tell us everything.</b> 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,880 <b>Very good.</b> 12 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:40,880 <b>I got 11.8 million for the whole thing.</b> 13 00:00:44,639 --> 00:00:46,920 <b>You are so much the master of your vote,</b> 14 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:48,760 <b>as much as you are the master of your life.</b> 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,559 <b>Those who live in such circumstances,</b> 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 <b>they come in very handy during elections.</b> 17 00:00:56,199 --> 00:00:58,679 <b>I don't want them to be taken away.</b> 18 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:03,679 <b>THE PRICE OF A VOTE</b> 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,960 <b>And then we arrived in Tiszabura, at the settlement,</b> 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,199 <b>but we might as well have arrived in any of about threehundred other settlements in the country,</b> 21 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,280 <b>so in that respect it makes no difference where we are now.</b> 22 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:25,320 <b>Life has come to </b><b>a standstill here, I think.</b> 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,840 <b>No places to go out, no culture,</b> 24 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:34,119 <b>nowhere to sit down, where we could draw,where the kids could paint,</b> 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,119 <b>or even pick up instruments.</b> 26 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,199 <b>None of these exist, I think.</b> 27 00:01:41,199 --> 00:01:45,679 <b>The poor woman is stuck herewith three or four kids, hauling water,</b> 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,599 <b>bathing them, doing their laundry.</b> 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,360 <b>Because there is no water in the apartments?</b> 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,239 <b>There is no water </b><b>in the apartments at all,</b> 31 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,960 <b>maybe one or two units </b><b>at the front have it,</b> 32 00:01:54,199 --> 00:01:55,800 <b>and there are two public pumps.</b> 33 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,480 <b>That is where they get their water from in 2025.</b> 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,880 <b>You only learn the value and importance of water</b> 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,880 <b>when you have to carry every single drop.</b> 36 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:11,000 <b>So, before youpass judgment on someone,</b> 37 00:02:11,159 --> 00:02:13,639 <b>you should come here to this little house,</b> 38 00:02:14,079 --> 00:02:17,480 <b>and you should ask them,what is their life like?</b> 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,639 <b>What is their family like?They love their children just the same!</b> 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 <b>AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDE</b> 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,360 <b>These small settlements are Fidesz strongholds;they are the flag-bearers.</b> 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,360 <b>I know so many families herewithin this county,</b> 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,639 <b>and in every other county, too.</b> 44 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:42,679 <b>And well, in the end, I was the one distributing.</b> 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,800 <b>We went out, we handed </b><b>out the chickens,</b> 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,719 <b>the food supplies, it was the night </b><b>before the elections,</b> 47 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,719 <b>until 3 AM. I smelled so bad </b><b>from the chickens,</b> 48 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 <b>it was simply unbelievable.</b> 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,559 <b>I personally helped with the potato distribution too.</b> 50 00:02:58,119 --> 00:03:01,320 <b>It was 5 kg per voter.</b> 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,480 <b>Now it is the same,just not with potatoes,</b> 52 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,320 <b>but 10,000 forints per vote.</b> 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,800 <b>Here, it usually starts at a thousand,five thousand, ten thousand...</b> 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,320 <b>That is one day of food.</b> 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,320 <b>But by now, even I knowthere is more to the world than just one day.</b> 56 00:03:27,679 --> 00:03:31,599 <b>In segregated areas,unfortunately, this is how it works.</b> 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,360 <b>Truly poor people live here.</b> 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,320 <b>People here live from one day to the next.</b> 59 00:03:37,559 --> 00:03:38,840 <b>That is really how it is here.</b> 60 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:41,280 <b>They can be bought, unfortunately.</b> 61 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,559 <b>And it is not, in my opinion, it's not even their fault.</b> 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,440 <b>We talked them into it;we literally bought them.</b> 63 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:52,559 <b>When three kids are crying,"I'm hungry, Dad, Mom..."</b> 64 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,280 <b>I think anyone would give up that vote for anything.</b> 65 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:01,119 <b>Those who were put into the cars,everyone was paid for it,</b> 66 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:03,639 <b>subsidies, everything.</b> 67 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,920 <b>Has there ever been a timewhen you were paid for your vote?</b> 68 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,039 <b>There has.</b> 69 00:04:11,079 --> 00:04:13,239 <b>Will you tell us who you voted for then?</b> 70 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:15,039 <b>For Fidesz.</b> 71 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,920 <b>In the days before, I went to every housetelling them not to go on their own.</b> 72 00:04:19,039 --> 00:04:22,039 <b>I will be the one taking them; they don't need to go.</b> 73 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:23,920 <b>We'll help with everything.</b> 74 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:26,440 <b>We held their hands like they were children.</b> 75 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:32,920 <b>There were familieswhere one or two of our guys had to sleep over.</b> 76 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:40,440 <b>They talked with them, had coffee, slept there,just to make sure they could take them to vote,</b> 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,960 <b>because there were so many families.</b> 78 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,159 <b>Why did they have to sleep there?Why wasn't it enough to go there in the morning?</b> 79 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,800 <b>Because we didn't trust these people.</b> 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,719 <b>And of course, they got money,they got packages, and well, yeah...</b> 81 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:59,800 <b>We felt that we had to deliver too,because we were also afraid of retaliation.</b> 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,239 <b>This network was activated at midnight.</b> 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:10,400 <b>The higher-ups told us what each person had to say,what we had to memorize...</b> 84 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:13,480 <b>what the amounts were,what kind of reimbursements were available,</b> 85 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:18,800 <b>and for those with addictions,what to give them, what to tell them.</b> 86 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:21,679 <b>Word for word, name by name,house by house,</b> 87 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:26,039 <b>we tracked down the people in the villages.</b> 88 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,239 <b>We heard that they were transporting people in droves,</b> 89 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 <b>meaning non-Roma voters as well.- That is how it was...</b> 90 00:05:33,119 --> 00:05:36,440 <b>Well, not just the Roma,</b> 91 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:41,320 <b>but anyone they couldexert influence over.</b> 92 00:05:42,559 --> 00:05:44,719 <b>We kicked this off at five-forty-five;roughly...</b> 93 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,039 <b>around 8 or 9, we managed totransport the elderly.</b> 94 00:05:48,159 --> 00:05:51,719 <b>Then came the youth, who don'tlike to wake up early.</b> 95 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,400 <b>They divide it up: this street is yours,that alcoholic is yours...</b> 96 00:05:57,559 --> 00:06:01,239 <b>that old lady is for the other person, </b><b>they divide it up nicely.</b> 97 00:06:01,599 --> 00:06:06,559 <b>Then around noon,they're just hunting down the missing people.</b> 98 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,719 <b>There are several people who are taken acrossto get an ID made just so they can vote.</b> 99 00:06:13,159 --> 00:06:13,880 <b>No way!</b> 100 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,559 <b>Because if someone doesn't have their IDright before the election, for whatever reason...</b> 101 00:06:18,679 --> 00:06:24,039 <b>they don't just get a temporary one, they get a proper ID immediately. How is that even possible?</b> 102 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,599 <b>It wasn't determined per person orper family, but just to get as many...</b> 103 00:06:31,719 --> 00:06:37,280 <b>as possible, and it was riggedin a way where we played along,</b> 104 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,360 <b>pretending they couldn't read or write,so we could go into the voting booth with them.</b> 105 00:06:41,559 --> 00:06:46,760 <b>There was this "chain voting", the first person went in,brought out the [blank] paper...</b> 106 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,239 <b>then kept bringing them in.Our job was to haul the people up there,</b> 107 00:06:51,559 --> 00:06:57,400 <b>for a certain amount... they gave us the money,here, give 5,000 forints to this one, that one...</b> 108 00:06:57,599 --> 00:07:01,559 <b>First, the alcoholics;they got them drunk on pálinka here,</b> 109 00:07:01,679 --> 00:07:07,760 <b>then took them up to vote. I gave them money,and then they went straight to the minorities,</b> 110 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,239 <b>to all of them, one by one - we had to goand round up the people.</b> 111 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:14,719 <b>I'll come for you with a car,you get in, we drop you off...</b> 112 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:17,960 <b>you go in, you cast your vote,you come out, you get this much.</b> 113 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:22,480 <b>They already have a man insidewho can see how they vote.</b> 114 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,880 <b>How can he see?</b> 115 00:07:24,119 --> 00:07:25,880 <b>Everyone asks for help.</b> 116 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,519 <b>Those who ask for helpget the money outside.</b> 117 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:33,320 <b>Those who don't ask for helpdon't get money outside.</b> 118 00:07:33,679 --> 00:07:35,639 <b>And it might be the end of their job.</b> 119 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,880 <b>They might get fired.</b> 120 00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:42,800 <b>There were some who were told they onlyget paid if they vote "openly."</b> 121 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,880 <b>Openly.</b> 122 00:07:44,119 --> 00:07:45,639 <b>What does it mean to vote "openly"?</b> 123 00:07:45,679 --> 00:07:47,039 <b>What does an "open vote" look like?</b> 124 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,199 <b>Well, it's when you don't go into the booth;you have to vote outside on the table.</b> 125 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,079 <b>And I guess someone stands there,watching who you marked, or you have to show it to someone.</b> 126 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 <b>Do they have to take photos, </b><b>or how does it work with mobile phones?</b> 127 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,559 <b>As I said, it depends on whether "Gerzsi" orthe other guy asks for it - "Igi," the mayor.</b> 128 00:08:04,719 --> 00:08:06,440 <b>There, for example, you have to take a photo.</b> 129 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:18,000 <b>I saw the voter inside the boothalong with this "associate,"</b> 130 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,000 <b>and it wasn't the voter who marked the X,but that associate.</b> 131 00:08:23,359 --> 00:08:25,399 <b>Someone close to the Mayor.</b> 132 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,800 <b>How often did he jump into the booth?</b> 133 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,279 <b>One after another.</b> 134 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,279 <b>And then he goes in... he rings the phone...</b> 135 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:41,119 <b>just one ring... "all good"...he knows who went in, who came out.</b> 136 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:45,119 <b>And then a single ring; you don'teven have to pick up the phone.</b> 137 00:08:45,439 --> 00:08:47,319 <b>"Yes, this is good."</b> 138 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:49,800 <b>Just short little words like that.</b> 139 00:08:51,359 --> 00:08:53,640 <b>And they already know they voted for them.</b> 140 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,920 <b>And they can count the votesout there.</b> 141 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,640 <b>Where are they at?</b> 142 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,800 <b>How many more are needed?</b> 143 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,039 <b>...To haul up.</b> 144 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,880 <b>How many were in the team?</b> 145 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:08,399 <b>Including the cars, 60.</b> 146 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 <b>- That's serious.- I think even more. Between 60 and 70.</b> 147 00:09:11,119 --> 00:09:12,880 <b>- And you were the leader of this?- Yes.</b> 148 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:17,640 <b>Well, the voting usuallygoes like this: there are a lot of cars standing there,</b> 149 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,600 <b>bringing them, taking them,bringing them, taking them.</b> 150 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:24,239 <b>- Is it well-organized?- It is, yes.</b> 151 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,560 <b>What can we expect in 2026?</b> 152 00:09:27,239 --> 00:09:29,039 <b>In terms of this kind of mobilization?</b> 153 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,760 <b>Well, it'll be twice as largeas it was eight years ago.</b> 154 00:09:35,079 --> 00:09:36,479 <b>In terms of money and cars too?</b> 155 00:09:37,079 --> 00:09:37,880 <b>In everything.</b> 156 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,199 <b>Higher stakes, more money,more preparation...</b> 157 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:52,720 <b>Out of 106 Hungarian individual constituencies, </b><b>no fewer than 53, exactly half,</b> 158 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:58,439 <b>have built this system, where everyconstituency has a leader...</b> 159 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:03,199 <b>their deputy, and sixor eight data collectors, who basically</b> 160 00:10:03,319 --> 00:10:07,359 <b>after preparations between lastMay and August,</b> 161 00:10:07,479 --> 00:10:09,760 <b>went live with the work in September.</b> 162 00:10:10,199 --> 00:10:16,279 <b>And at first, the plan was for this collection workto continue until December 31, 2025,</b> 163 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,479 <b>the point of which is to gather all the dataneeded for the balloting.</b> 164 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,039 <b>Name, ID number,</b> 165 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:32,039 <b>address card, and then they mobilizethem for the election.</b> 166 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,960 <b>Usually, I paid an hourly rate.</b> 167 00:10:37,479 --> 00:10:42,239 <b>But for those who said they'd be there from morning till night, there was a fixed daily wage.</b> 168 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,399 <b>That was 70,000 forints.</b> 169 00:10:45,319 --> 00:10:52,279 <b>Those who were there and escorted people to the booth so they could pretend they couldn't read or write...</b> 170 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,680 <b>they got 35,000 forints a day.</b> 171 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,079 <b>They are entrusted with it; e</b><b>ven my nephew was, they gave him the money...</b> 172 00:11:00,199 --> 00:11:01,800 <b>he told me a million,</b> 173 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,159 <b>and he had to distribute it </b><b>among the people in fives [5,000s].</b> 174 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,640 <b>They brought pálinka to get them drunk.</b> 175 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,720 <b>It's the same thing; the same thing is happening here.</b> 176 00:11:12,479 --> 00:11:13,600 <b>The same thing is happening in Pilis, too.</b> 177 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,640 <b>I have acquaintances there; they were complaining.</b> 178 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,039 <b>I know that serious money was at stake;in fact, I heard in the county</b> 179 00:11:21,159 --> 00:11:26,840 <b>about a lady who was boastingthat she bought her house from that.</b> 180 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:31,960 <b>Eight years ago, I received12 million forints for this work.</b> 181 00:11:32,119 --> 00:11:35,119 <b>There are voices like that, where someonetells you completely openly.</b> 182 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:41,239 <b>She organized the cars to take peoplehere and there, this way and that, to vote.</b> 183 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,119 <b>Specifically, I thinkshe was a Fidesz lady,</b> 184 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:47,159 <b>but honestly, it doesn't matterif it's one or the other.</b> 185 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:53,680 <b>People have sadly grown used to the factthat this is how it's going to work.</b> 186 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,439 <b>In fact, they're already waiting for whenthey'll bring that food package.</b> 187 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:03,119 <b>Some are already waiting, thinking: "They'll give me a 'smoke' [cigarette] for my vote anyway."</b> 188 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,880 <b>People are already waiting for these things.</b> 189 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,399 <b>It's well-constructed.</b> 190 00:12:08,119 --> 00:12:10,680 <b>They already know it;it's a strategy for them.</b> 191 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,119 <b>- It's sophisticated.- Sophisticated, yes.</b> 192 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,079 <b>And if all of this is true, and we multiplyit by the number of people...</b> 193 00:12:18,199 --> 00:12:21,920 <b>the number of constituencies, the number </b><b>of weeks and months, then basically</b> 194 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:24,720 <b>by the end of December, we were at a point</b> 195 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 <b>where even with high turnout,this accounts for 6 to 7 percent.</b> 196 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 <b>Which could even be decisive.</b> 197 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,000 <b>Things have sped up.</b> 198 00:12:35,239 --> 00:12:37,840 <b>You can feel it in every municipality.</b> 199 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:42,479 <b>There are those settlementswhere they've set up foundations,</b> 200 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,319 <b>where the money used forelection handouts is transferred.</b> 201 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,119 <b>In the settlement of...,there's also a foundation...</b> 202 00:12:51,239 --> 00:12:55,119 <b>and several people have already signaled thatthe method will be the same again.</b> 203 00:12:55,239 --> 00:13:00,560 <b>The money is transferred to them, and from thereit'll be scattered among the voters.</b> 204 00:13:03,319 --> 00:13:05,640 <b>Well, I'd say we're talking about "grey money"at the very least, but</b> 205 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,359 <b>it's likely that it's absolute "black money."</b> 206 00:13:08,479 --> 00:13:13,880 <b>And I know of an amount around1.1 to 1.3 billion...</b> 207 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,279 <b>but according to several people, that isa deep underestimate of the sum.</b> 208 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:24,000 <b>At the same time, I also know, becausemultiple independent sources have said,</b> 209 00:13:24,119 --> 00:13:28,199 <b>that right before the elections, there will be"election motivation."</b> 210 00:13:28,319 --> 00:13:32,800 <b>Now, this could be potatoes, </b><b>of course, it could be gift packages,</b> 211 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,199 <b>but it could be a 10 or 20 thousand [forint] note.</b> 212 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:43,239 <b>Some people took something somewhere,a pallet-sized pile of dough.</b> 213 00:13:43,439 --> 00:13:48,199 <b>Now, if it's true that there are 50-million packagesbeing taken to 156 locations,</b> 214 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,800 <b>then you immediately have that scale.</b> 215 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,239 <b>Imagine 50 million forintsin 20,000-forint notes in front of you.</b> 216 00:13:54,439 --> 00:13:58,960 <b>If they only take a 50-million-forint packageto 156 places, that's 8 billion forints.</b> 217 00:13:59,079 --> 00:14:00,520 <b>- Yes.- Cash.</b> 218 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,560 <b>Listen, in Tiszabura they had 150 [million] for 3 rounds.</b> 219 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,439 <b>- At the very least!- At the very least! </b> 220 00:14:05,439 --> 00:14:07,159 <b>Then for the whole country, I mean, come on...</b> 221 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:12,319 <b>Imagine that in Tiszabura, in the last week,it was the third election,</b> 222 00:14:12,479 --> 00:14:16,439 <b>when theoretically no one has any money leftin a settlement like that...</b> 223 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,960 <b>and in the tobacco shop, there were so many 20,000-forint </b><b>notes that they couldn't even give back change.</b> 224 00:14:20,239 --> 00:14:24,159 <b>X million forints appeared in the settlement. </b><b>All in 20,000-forint notes.</b> 225 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:26,199 <b>Everyone had 20,000s.</b> 226 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,520 <b>How?</b> 227 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,359 <b>Now, if we think about it, </b> 228 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,840 <b>If they are artificially kept in poverty, then we are talking about a tool of power technology.</b> 229 00:14:39,119 --> 00:14:43,800 <b>And what people need to understand is thatby controlling them, they are controlling you.</b> 230 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,039 <b>Who gave the drivers the money? Who did they get it from?The representatives who are in that electoral district.</b> 231 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:01,199 <b>Well, those who are in the constituency are representatives.</b> 232 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,640 <b>- So, the Fidesz Members of Parliament?- Exactly, exactly, exactly.</b> 233 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:10,199 <b>But it's all divided up; however many districts there are, there are that many MPs,</b> 234 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,520 <b>and they have their own people in their own districts,</b> 235 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,720 <b>and they are the ones who bring the cash.</b> 236 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:22,880 <b>They say: "This is your money,this is for school supplies, go buy a package with it,"</b> 237 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,920 <b>or they already brought the package and say:"Here's the school money, this is yours."</b> 238 00:15:29,479 --> 00:15:34,479 <b>There was a maximum amount per voter, 5,000 forints, we always gave that out.</b> 239 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:38,840 <b>I gave fifty thousand, a hundred, thirty...</b> 240 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,039 <b>it depended on when, and which one [leader], and how.</b> 241 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:45,920 <b>Sometimes they even did another lap and gave me more money.</b> 242 00:15:46,319 --> 00:15:51,720 <b>This activity we saw in Tiszabura can be carried out in three hundred settlements, </b> 243 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:53,279 <b>- lus...- At the very least.</b> 244 00:15:53,479 --> 00:15:58,920 <b>At the very least, then that is a very, very serious number.</b> 245 00:16:00,199 --> 00:16:01,840 <b>This is a very, very serious number.</b> 246 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:03,800 <b>Which elections are we talking about?</b> 247 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:10,680 <b>This was happening back in the Gyurcsány era too, but it wasn't this rampant.</b> 248 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,399 <b>Everyone does it, but mostly here in Vasvári, it's Fidesz.</b> 249 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:17,520 <b>They're the ones with enough money to hand it out.</b> 250 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:22,399 <b>But regarding the last parliamentary elections,</b> 251 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,359 <b>it must be said that the "Opposition gang" did the exact same thing as the "Fidesz crew."</b> 252 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,319 <b>Exactly the same; there were people </b><b>who took money from both sides.</b> 253 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,479 <b>There was an opposition city leadership </b><b>here for 12 years, too.</b> 254 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,720 <b>Well, they played this same tactic.</b> 255 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,159 <b>The exact same way.</b> 256 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,479 <b>It's getting worse here. Everything is getting worse.</b> 257 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,560 <b>And I don't even know if there will ever be change.</b> 258 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,119 <b>"We're moving forward backwards", </b><b>that's our saying.</b> 259 00:16:52,239 --> 00:16:53,720 <b>Alright, okay.</b> 260 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,319 <b>Ciao, ciao. </b> 261 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,159 <b>Bye, guys.</b> 262 00:16:58,119 --> 00:17:00,000 <b>"We're moving forward backwards."</b> 263 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:01,800 <b>Just so they don't stab you in the back by accident, right?</b> 264 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,479 <b>THREATEN AND DEPRIVE</b> 265 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,920 <b>Mr. Mayor, Ladies and Gentlemen.</b> 266 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,920 <b>The situation is that you are </b><b>the ones who have to win this election.</b> 267 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,800 <b>In this region, in this district, </b><b>public works programs are still common.</b> 268 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:26,159 <b>The mayors are in daily contact </b><b>with the public workers,</b> 269 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:30,800 <b>and obviously, it will be said during the campaign, </b><b>in fact, it's already been said,</b> 270 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,039 <b>that if you don't vote for Fidesz, there will be </b><b>no public work, you'll have no daily income.</b> 271 00:17:36,479 --> 00:17:38,079 <b>And these are simple people.</b> 272 00:17:38,159 --> 00:17:40,079 <b>And very many of them believe that's how it is.</b> 273 00:17:40,199 --> 00:17:43,119 <b>In the settlements, especially the small ones,</b> 274 00:17:43,239 --> 00:17:46,560 <b> the mayor's opinion is decisive.</b> 275 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,319 <b>Few stand up to him because he has many tools in his hand</b> 276 00:17:50,439 --> 00:17:57,319 <b>to influence the lives of the people living there, </b><b>even their monthly income.</b> 277 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,199 <b>The mayors tell the Roma: </b><b>"Fine, if you didn't vote for Fidesz,</b> 278 00:18:02,399 --> 00:18:05,560 <b>then there's no public work, there's nothing."</b> 279 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,840 <b>In fact, they completely ruin </b><b>those families in the settlement.</b> 280 00:18:12,199 --> 00:18:13,319 <b>How do they ruin them?</b> 281 00:18:13,479 --> 00:18:19,399 <b>If the threat didn't work, </b><b>we took things away; we didn't give.</b> 282 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,680 <b>- What does that mean?- Together with the local municipality...</b> 283 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,399 <b>we cut off their electricity subsidy </b><b>or their firewood subsidy.</b> 284 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,199 <b>So the mayor... I don't want to use </b><b>the word "blackmail," but</b> 285 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:46,640 <b>yes, he expects the public workers, the employees,</b> 286 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,199 <b>those employed at the local institutions,</b> 287 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:51,880 <b>to support the governing party.</b> 288 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,640 <b>You don't even have to say your job </b><b>will be gone tomorrow if you don't show up,</b> 289 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,760 <b>because everyone knows that if you don't go, it's over.</b> 290 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,079 <b>The situation is getting very grave now;there's some serious intimidation.</b> 291 00:19:04,199 --> 00:19:07,479 <b>Just yesterday some acquaintances </b><b>were at our place, and there are hardcore threats,</b> 292 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,039 <b>for example, in the district offices, </b><b>they are threatening district office heads.</b> 293 00:19:11,159 --> 00:19:12,960 <b>Yes, and who is threatening them?</b> 294 00:19:13,399 --> 00:19:17,039 <b>The "boss ladies," for example, at the labor center.</b> 295 00:19:17,479 --> 00:19:20,760 <b>Tasks are mandatorily assigned for the weekend: where to go,</b> 296 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,319 <b>where to appear. </b><b>They shove tablets into their hands,</b> 297 00:19:24,439 --> 00:19:27,880 <b>they make them register people, </b><b>they go knocking and ringing doorbells everywhere.</b> 298 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,840 <b>You know?</b> 299 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,439 <b>Aha, I see.</b> 300 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,439 <b>The tablet is important;it's a very important tool for mobilization.</b> 301 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,060 <b>Yes.</b> 302 00:19:35,159 --> 00:19:39,039 <b>A former Fidesz municipal representative told me</b> 303 00:19:39,199 --> 00:19:45,279 <b>how he went out to mobilize for the '22 elections:on the tablet, he could see</b> 304 00:19:45,399 --> 00:19:49,800 <b>all the addresses; </b><b>he had to go online to mobilize his district.</b> 305 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,640 <b>Suddenly his phone rings - he said it wasthe Center in Sátoraljaújhely calling,</b> 306 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:01,159 <b>saying they got a call from the Lendvai Street headquarters [Fidesz HQ], asking why the man is standing still.</b> 307 00:20:01,479 --> 00:20:04,199 <b>Why is he standing still </b><b>when there's a mobilization going on?</b> 308 00:20:06,279 --> 00:20:09,399 <b>We are marked...By the police, by the doctor, </b> 309 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:14,119 <b>wherever we go, they look at us </b><b>like: "You didn't vote for us."</b> 310 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:16,279 <b>"You aren't with us," in plain English.</b> 311 00:20:16,399 --> 00:20:19,560 <b>Then you don't get public work, you can't go to work,</b> 312 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,640 <b>you can't do this, you don't get that, </b><b>they take away your housing subsidy.</b> 313 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,239 <b>And I could go on; there are so many things</b> 314 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,399 <b>they can do to hurt these families.</b> 315 00:20:28,479 --> 00:20:35,239 <b>If we look back at the last 15 years, </b><b>Fidesz has had an open policy - </b> 316 00:20:35,399 --> 00:20:38,479 <b>and they've voiced it  - of reaching everyone.</b> 317 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,279 <b>They support those who stand on their political side.</b> 318 00:20:42,479 --> 00:20:47,960 <b>Meanwhile, municipalities on the opposition side </b><b>don't get any support at all.</b> 319 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:53,960 <b>Tender funds are so scarce; we can mostly </b><b>only hope for "Hungarian Village" grants - </b> 320 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,039 <b>my colleagues and I... and it all, all depends on the</b> 321 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:00,760 <b>goodwill and helpfulness of the Members of Parliament.</b> 322 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,119 <b>If the mayor doesn't work and perform </b> 323 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,760 <b>for the government, he won't get any grants.</b> 324 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,359 <b>It's terrible to see this injustice - </b><b>that there are settlements</b> 325 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:16,399 <b>that don't even have to submit a bid </b><b>and it just rains money on them,</b> 326 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,840 <b>while we have to hustle so hard for any tiny bit of funding.</b> 327 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159 <b>Even though I love my settlement just as much</b> 328 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:25,479 <b>as that mayor who gets showered with money.</b> 329 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,239 <b>A 500-meter stretch of sidewalk - </b><b>I don't know for the how-manieth time,</b> 330 00:21:32,239 --> 00:21:34,319 <b>the tenth time we're submitting it </b><b>to the "Hungarian Village" program.</b> 331 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,680 <b>The Representative promised the sidewalk </b><b>right here in Szamos,</b> 332 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:42,279 <b>my predecessor built it, it's falling into the ditch, and we can't get 10 million forints.</b> 333 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,319 <b>I'm begging you, really.</b> 334 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,479 <b>These are our needs - I'm not </b> 335 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,239 <b>talking about billions, or a village bus,which is already falling apart on us.</b> 336 00:21:55,159 --> 00:22:00,039 <b>We hear in several settlements that </b><b>they use these "Hungarian Village" buses</b> 337 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:02,760 <b>on election day...- Of course. </b> 338 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,479 <b>- to transport voters.- I think this is natural.</b> 339 00:22:05,479 --> 00:22:08,800 <b>They even go to the "Peace March" </b><b>with these village buses - that's 100%.</b> 340 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,239 <b>No one here even makes a peep about it.</b> 341 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,960 <b>So, on state money?- Well, but Fidesz gave it.</b> 342 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:18,640 <b>Not the state. Fidesz gave the village bus,</b> 343 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,640 <b>so the minimum is that we go up </b><b>to the Peace March with the Fidesz bus.</b> 344 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,520 <b>Anyone who goes against Fidesz, </b><b>or perhaps expresses disagreement,</b> 345 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,840 <b>or doesn't agree with their politics </b><b>or the current situation</b> 346 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,920 <b>that they created here in this country, </b><b>Fidesz ruins all of them.</b> 347 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,560 <b>So anyone who goes against them... </b> 348 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,760 <b>as the Prime Minister said, they do not forget.</b> 349 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:59,199 <b>I worked a lot on drug cases, and say, </b><b>up until five years ago,</b> 350 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,600 <b>you could work these cases quite well.</b> 351 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 <b>Then came the period when we were just lying.</b> 352 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,279 <b>There weren't enough men; "don't start an investigation."</b> 353 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,960 <b>The order was to just toss it out if we found something,</b> 354 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,680 <b>whatever, just as long as there's no case.</b> 355 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,960 <b>For years, this drug dealer network </b> 356 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:19,439 <b>has been running very, very smoothly;they aren't checking them.</b> 357 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,600 <b>In this area, theyíve taken away 12 dealers this year alone,</b> 358 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,800 <b>but they let ten of them out.</b> 359 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,000 <b>After the third day, maybe, but the longest </b><b>anyone was in was 25 days - </b> 360 00:23:32,199 --> 00:23:34,560 <b>someone they took from this very street.</b> 361 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,079 <b>- Why do they let them out?- That's the best question.</b> 362 00:23:38,239 --> 00:23:40,880 <b>I think about that too.</b> 363 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,159 <b>It would look very, very bad</b><b>if the real statistics were published</b> 364 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,479 <b>showing how much the number of drug users and</b> 365 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,439 <b>drug dealers has increased in a given area.</b> 366 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,399 <b>The police come here, they drive around in unmarked cars, and they know people are doing drugs there, </b> 367 00:23:56,479 --> 00:24:00,000 <b>and there, and there, and they don't act.</b> 368 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:04,159 <b>I guess only after the election - </b><b>but they won't act after the election either.</b> 369 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:07,920 <b>They don't mess with the addicts until then, </b><b>because that's how they can grab them.</b> 370 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:09,880 <b>They give them money to buy drugs.</b> 371 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760 <b>Or someone arranges drugs for them.</b> 372 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,640 <b>They buy them with these substances.</b> 373 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,439 <b>They are addicts; you sign, you mark the box, </b><b>and naturally you get a pack or two.</b> 374 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,119 <b>They know who can be bought; they know who the addicts are.</b> 375 00:24:25,199 --> 00:24:28,239 <b>In this area, everyone knows each other -</b> 376 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,920 <b>we're not talking about a city as big as Salgótarján.</b> 377 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:35,279 <b>It's already happened here that votes were given for designer drugs; it's happened</b> 378 00:24:35,399 --> 00:24:38,039 <b>that they gave money, or someone got a food package.</b> 379 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:40,239 <b>I think this is present everywhere.</b> 380 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,359 <b>People are allowed to go about their drug dealing in peace, </b> 381 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439 <b>and for the elections, in settlements like these</b> 382 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,279 <b>where there is deep poverty, these people will bring in</b> 383 00:24:52,399 --> 00:24:56,159 <b>the "no-good bums" to vote for a single pack.</b> 384 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,239 <b>For a pack of drugs?- A pack is enough for them!</b> 385 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,920 <b>This is some cheap poison, a thousand forints -</b> 386 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:05,880 <b> now think about it,</b> 387 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,880 <b>if a person invests, say...</b> 388 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 <b>I'm just pulling a number out of thin air, a hundred thousand forints - that's a hundred votes.</b> 389 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,479 <b>Among these people, there are no secrets - </b><b>it's not like we're not afraid.</b> 390 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,640 <b>And you also have to know that Fideszhas its own thugs too.</b> 391 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,000 <b>There are settlements where the Mayor,or her husband,</b> 392 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,680 <b>regularly uploads photosto social media</b> 393 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,520 <b>showing them out partying,where half the company are drug dealers.</b> 394 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,479 <b>This Mayor, for example, stays in touchwith these people</b> 395 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,239 <b>because they are the ones who caninfluence the votes in the same way.</b> 396 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,880 <b>Fidesz brings in the pimps and the criminalsbecause they know how to put,</b> 397 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,720 <b>oh I dunno, pressure on people, ou know what I'm sayin'?</b> 398 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,720 <b>I wanted to run for local office here, too.</b> 399 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,159 <b>I managed to run in the general election,but for the "small" municipality - </b> 400 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:28,560 <b>the Roma minority self-government -I couldn't even stand as a candidate</b> 401 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,439 <b>because the Mayor </b> 402 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,479 <b>set his people on me.</b> 403 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,920 <b>I invited the mayoral candidatesto my house on Mester Street,</b> 404 00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,399 <b>since I was a candidate back then,</b> 405 00:26:45,399 --> 00:26:50,000 <b>and two mayoral candidates showed up,</b> 406 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,319 <b>plus two MP candidates;</b> 407 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:57,319 <b>I was the only onefrom the Roma minority.</b> 408 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:03,840 <b>Everything went as it should - the cooking,the talking, everything -</b> 409 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:10,800 <b>and two days later, the utility company showed upand cut off my electricity.</b> 410 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560 <b>I said, "But why?"</b> 411 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,000 <b>"Forgive me," he says, "we cut your poweron orders from above."</b> 412 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,119 <b>From then on, they wouldn't even reconnect it,even if I had paid for it.</b> 413 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,600 <b>This is a constant thing.</b> 414 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,199 <b>It's not that we suddenly scare themthe day before the election;</b> 415 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:37,159 <b>it has to be handled so that fear is presentin their everyday lives.</b> 416 00:27:37,439 --> 00:27:42,039 <b>So they know who the boss is, that themunicipality is the absolute master.</b> 417 00:27:43,439 --> 00:27:47,359 <b>And this is very typical of the poorer layers,the less educated layers - </b> 418 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,960 <b>they can really keep them in check with this.</b> 419 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,840 <b>To what extent does this affect Roma,and to what extent non-Roma?</b> 420 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,520 <b>Both. Both the Roma and the non-Roma.</b> 421 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,239 <b>Anyone who doesn't agree with Fideszis marked.</b> 422 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:02,680 <b>Two days later they cameand cut off the water, too.</b> 423 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,680 <b>Was there any debt? Any overdue bills?</b> 424 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600 <b>There was no debt whatsoever.</b> 425 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,720 <b>None.</b> 426 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,560 <b>Well, these things happened,</b> 427 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,920 <b>and then they even told methat it could get even worse.</b> 428 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840 <b>Not just like this,but it could get even worse.</b> 429 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,359 <b>And it did get worse.</b> 430 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,640 <b>People go up there like humble servants.</b> 431 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,000 <b>Because they knowthat if they don't go up...</b> 432 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:27,920 <b>I don't know... to vote,there will be repercussions.</b> 433 00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:33,760 <b>In the countryside, in small villages, </b><b>the established custom is that you have to go,</b> 434 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,760 <b>like in the days of kings, when the vassalsand the liegemen owed a debt to...</b> 435 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,159 <b>I don't know, their superiors.</b> 436 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,600 <b>That's how it works.</b> 437 00:28:48,479 --> 00:28:50,760 <b>My son was born on January 1st.</b> 438 00:28:51,239 --> 00:28:54,399 <b>On Thursday, the child was stillthere with Gabica all day.</b> 439 00:28:55,239 --> 00:28:57,479 <b>On Friday morning, the child was still there.</b> 440 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,760 <b>In the afternoon, after the lunch break, </b><b>they already took the child, saying they'd just heard</b> 441 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,880 <b>from Child Protective Services thatthe child cannot be released to the home.</b> 442 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,840 <b>They simply issue the orderthat this specific family</b> 443 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,680 <b>must be monitored, visited,that they must find a flaw.</b> 444 00:29:25,199 --> 00:29:26,760 <b>And then the pressure begins.</b> 445 00:29:27,159 --> 00:29:28,880 <b>In the village, everyone knows everyone.</b> 446 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,119 <b>They know your financial situation.</b> 447 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960 <b>And that is what they try to attack.</b> 448 00:29:34,479 --> 00:29:37,640 <b>And if that doesn't work, </b><b>they attack through the child.</b> 449 00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:39,920 <b>A person's treasure, their everything.</b> 450 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:42,079 <b>The child or the grandchild.</b> 451 00:29:42,439 --> 00:29:44,680 <b>They are doing the same to me.</b> 452 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:46,960 <b>They are doing it to many people.</b> 453 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,760 <b>The social worker doesn't necessarilyeven participate in it,</b> 454 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,520 <b>they just use them as a threat, likethe "boogeyman" used to scare kids.</b> 455 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,720 <b>I struggle, I fight, I suffer so muchjust to be with them.</b> 456 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,439 <b>I don't want them to take them away.</b> 457 00:30:03,399 --> 00:30:06,920 <b>All it takes is one or two "reports" to achild welfare officer so they have to go out.</b> 458 00:30:07,159 --> 00:30:11,560 <b>And once they've gone out and shown up,the fear sets in.</b> 459 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,760 <b>No one wants to give up their children.</b> 460 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,680 <b>At four-oh-one, the Mayor called me.</b> 461 00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:25,439 <b>He says, "Listen here, Uncle Gyula."</b> 462 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,319 <b>"Tomorrow morning the child welfare officerswill be there, </b> 463 00:30:28,479 --> 00:30:31,880 <b>and I'm having the kids taken."</b> 464 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,119 <b>He didn't even let me get a word in;he hung up on me.</b> 465 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,319 <b>The next morning, two minutesbefore 8 AM, they were already here.</b> 466 00:30:41,479 --> 00:30:45,359 <b>I ask the neighbors - first, they saythe child is being put under guardianship.</b> 467 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,680 <b>But here, the Mayor saidhe is taking them, having them removed.</b> 468 00:30:52,479 --> 00:30:55,239 <b>Even though I think, despitethe fact that we live poorly,</b> 469 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:58,479 <b>there are people in worsesituations than us.</b> 470 00:30:59,159 --> 00:31:02,359 <b>Because the kids have clothes and everything.</b> 471 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:10,199 <b>And the child is a good student - smart;he was in a read-aloud competition twice.</b> 472 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:13,359 <b>I'll tell you the honest truth.</b> 473 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,600 <b>Let him try to take them!</b> 474 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,039 <b>If he can take them, he'll have totake them over my dead body.</b> 475 00:31:19,399 --> 00:31:21,279 <b>Because I will surelykill someone.</b> 476 00:31:21,439 --> 00:31:23,039 <b>Why did he threaten you with that?</b> 477 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:29,479 <b>I think these threats happened,and will keep happening,</b> 478 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,439 <b>because</b> 479 00:31:30,439 --> 00:31:33,199 <b>my father told him on the phone</b> 480 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,279 <b>that he isn't going to vote for them,for Fidesz.</b> 481 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:40,199 <b>MAYOR PÉTER N. DID NOT WISH TO COMMENT</b> 482 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,359 <b>So they didn't release the baby,and Gabi - your wife - had to come home</b> 483 00:31:55,479 --> 00:31:57,680 <b>practically without the baby.</b> 484 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880 <b>She had to come home without the baby.</b> 485 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:04,000 <b>At the hospital, my nerves were...</b> 486 00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:10,159 <b>I could barely calm her down,saying "no, we'll bring him home anyway,"</b> 487 00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,880 <b>because we won't restuntil we bring him home.</b> 488 00:32:13,439 --> 00:32:15,560 <b>The child was kept in the hospital</b> 489 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,560 <b>without a formalguardianship decree being issued.</b> 490 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,600 <b>Which, in itself, is illegal.</b> 491 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,479 <b>You can't keep someone in a hospital and</b> 492 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,880 <b>remove them from the family withouta legally binding court order.</b> 493 00:32:27,399 --> 00:32:32,000 <b>It is nonsense on its own that a childwelfare service gives an order to a</b> 494 00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,239 <b>hospital when - I say it again -there is no legally binding decree.</b> 495 00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:39,239 <b>That simply doesn't exist.- It's a total administrative anomaly.</b> 496 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:43,119 <b>They are not an authority;the Child Welfare Service is not an authority.</b> 497 00:32:43,479 --> 00:32:47,680 <b>The authorities are the Government Office, </b><b>the District Office, the Guardianship Office, and that's it.</b> 498 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,279 <b>The Court, the Police, the Prosecutor's Office - those are the authorities.</b> 499 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,840 <b>And I told the District Head this:that after this, I'm going to consider</b> 500 00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,359 <b>that since the Guardianship Officewasn't the culprit,</b> 501 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,680 <b>we should initiateproceedings against the Child Welfare Service.</b> 502 00:33:05,199 --> 00:33:12,680 <b>And this is interesting because the opposing candidate,the one who ultimately won against Tibi,</b> 503 00:33:13,199 --> 00:33:17,399 <b>he isn't with the Guardianship Office;</b> 504 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,560 <b>it was someone who shouldn't evenhave been allowed to act in this case.</b> 505 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,439 <b>And miraculously, Laci Glonczi made a callto the Child Welfare Center - </b> 506 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,640 <b>he'd barely put the phone down,and the Child Welfare Service was already here.</b> 507 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,239 <b>Well, everything is right here... it's all documented.</b> 508 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,960 <b>ANIKÓ K., A ROMA MINORITY REPRESENTATIVE AND CHILD WELFARE WORKER, DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED.</b> 509 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,600 <b>SHE CLAIMS SHE WAS NOT THE ASSIGNED CASE</b><b>OFFICER AND HAS NO PUBLIC DISPUTE WITH TIBOR.</b> 510 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,399 <b>- Hi!- Hi!</b> 511 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,640 <b>- Tell us, how are you?- Good, we're good now!</b> 512 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,279 <b>Good now, thank God!</b> 513 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600 <b>- Finally taking him home!- Of course!</b> 514 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:08,279 <b>Can you hold him?</b> 515 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,680 <b>Just cover him, like that!</b> 516 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,359 <b>Good, good.</b> 517 00:34:10,479 --> 00:34:12,399 <b>[Unintelligible]</b> 518 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:13,600 <b>Not yet.</b> 519 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239 <b>I said it would be better if it rained.</b> 520 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,479 <b>I'd rather my money be gonethan my son not come home.</b> 521 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,039 <b>Don't kick the blanket off, or you'll catch a cold.</b> 522 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:24,439 <b>He didn't cry at all.</b> 523 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,720 <b>He's safe now.</b> 524 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,640 <b>Well, he's with his parents.</b> 525 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,159 <b>Slowly, slowly, slowly.</b> 526 00:34:41,439 --> 00:34:42,840 <b>Slowly.</b> 527 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:45,479 <b>We're inside!</b> 528 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,039 <b>What is it?</b> 529 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,479 <b>You big man!</b> 530 00:35:02,359 --> 00:35:06,560 <b>Because we aren't bootlickers,because we won't play along</b> 531 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,279 <b>with the Mayor's little games - this is what we get.</b> 532 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,880 <b>Because they'll ruin me, just as I am.</b> 533 00:35:11,399 --> 00:35:12,920 <b>That's why I don't dare to run.</b> 534 00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:17,840 <b>Not because I'm afraid of them, or anyone,but because I have children.</b> 535 00:35:18,279 --> 00:35:21,560 <b>They caused us a lot of psychologicaltrauma with this.</b> 536 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:22,520 <b>Yes.</b> 537 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,079 <b>So...</b> 538 00:35:24,479 --> 00:35:26,960 <b>That's what I have to think about.</b> 539 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,359 <b>A SYMBOL OF TOTAL MAYORAL DOMINATION</b><b>"NOT JUST A ROMA PROBLEM"</b> 540 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:39,199 <b>Here in Nyírbogát,what is the most important factor</b> 541 00:35:39,319 --> 00:35:41,319 <b>in how they getpeople to go vote?</b> 542 00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:43,880 <b>Intimidation, or money?</b> 543 00:35:44,279 --> 00:35:45,680 <b>- Both.- Both.</b> 544 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,359 <b>Well, there's a layer of people he can'tjust hand 5,000 forints to, because...</b> 545 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:58,199 <b>Because they aren't like that; for this middle class,intimidation is what gets them to vote - </b> 546 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,920 <b>whether it's the doctor telling them,or their boss at work.</b> 547 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:06,800 <b>I'm "not eligible" for public works,no interest-free loans even though</b> 548 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,600 <b>I needed it for my medicine and my treatment - I'm "not eligible."</b> 549 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,239 <b>My children can't really stay in touch with me,because theyíll lose their jobs.</b> 550 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,439 <b>It has destroyed me mentally to the pointwhere I have nothing left to lose.</b> 551 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,880 <b>A Mayor cannot do this - to harass even my daughter-in-law.</b> 552 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,079 <b>She was hired for public works after much pleading,and he said to her - </b> 553 00:36:27,279 --> 00:36:30,119 <b>she's a cleaner at the nursing home - "What is she doing here?"</b> 554 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,680 <b>"She's Gizi's daughter-in-law."</b> 555 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,760 <b>"How can she be here?"</b> 556 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640 <b>And the girl said,"Well, just because I'm her daughter-in-law</b> 557 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,680 <b>doesn't mean I stayin touch with my mother-in-law."</b> 558 00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,439 <b>But her eyes were tearing upthat she had to say such a thing!</b> 559 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,520 <b>When in reality, my daughter-in-law loves me.</b> 560 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,960 <b>And I told her: act as if you hate me.</b> 561 00:36:47,279 --> 00:36:49,479 <b>So she can have a job, so she can feed her child.</b> 562 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,600 <b>Now, this is a disgrace to Hungary.</b> 563 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,239 <b>By what right?</b> 564 00:36:53,399 --> 00:36:55,800 <b>By what right do you hurt my children?</b> 565 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,239 <b>Anyone close to Fidesz can do anything.</b> 566 00:36:58,279 --> 00:37:03,319 <b>They can be usurers, do drugs, sell drugs - nothing will happen to them.</b> 567 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,079 <b>"Why don't you help us, Doctor?"</b> 568 00:37:06,479 --> 00:37:08,319 <b>And do you know what she said?</b> 569 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,920 <b>"I'm happy enough if I help my own kind."</b> 570 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,039 <b>And then I spoke up, but at the election - I spoke up then, and there was a great silence - </b> 571 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:22,199 <b>but at the election, why do you torment themover the 'X' and make them vote openly?</b> 572 00:37:22,479 --> 00:37:24,000 <b>She couldn't even speak.</b> 573 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,479 <b>Everyone is afraid; they're afraid for their jobs.</b> 574 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:33,720 <b>Even in my family, the boss is Fidesz,and she's afraid to speak out.</b> 575 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,039 <b>Is that a police car -sorry, or is it not the police?</b> 576 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,960 <b>It doesn't matter.- They are very afraid on this street.</b> 577 00:37:39,279 --> 00:37:42,279 <b>And in the whole village, not just this street.</b> 578 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:54,920 <b>Today, firewood was distributed, andspecifically, only the Fidesz people got any.</b> 579 00:37:55,279 --> 00:37:58,880 <b>This firewood was supposedlydistributed based on need.</b> 580 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:04,119 <b>My brother, unfortunately, has only one leg;his left leg was amputated.</b> 581 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,319 <b>He didn't get any.</b> 582 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,399 <b>I suffer from Type 2 muscular dystrophy.</b> 583 00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:12,880 <b>I didn't get any either.</b> 584 00:38:18,399 --> 00:38:22,479 <b>It's simply that important whether socialfirewood is handed out or not...</b> 585 00:38:22,479 --> 00:38:23,920 <b>who gets it and who doesn't.</b> 586 00:38:24,319 --> 00:38:26,399 <b>That is how bad things are in the countryside.</b> 587 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,720 <b>That is the conclusion.</b> 588 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,439 <b>It's that important who getsthe firewood and who doesn't.</b> 589 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:40,000 <b>I'm from Nyírbogát, and so many peopletell me they don't dare speak up here - </b> 590 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,239 <b>they're trembling because they might get sick.</b> 591 00:38:42,439 --> 00:38:47,800 <b>Or their child, their grandchild, anyone - they might need a medical fit-for-work certificate.</b> 592 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,319 <b>They'll lose their job.- That's right, and also...</b> 593 00:38:50,479 --> 00:38:55,399 <b>she was the head of the nursing homefor a long time.</b> 594 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,119 <b>She is still the doctor for the nursing home.</b> 595 00:38:58,359 --> 00:39:00,359 <b>So that's another relationship of dependency.</b> 596 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960 <b>If someone has a loved one lying in there - </b> 597 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,920 <b>say, they're sick - then they don't dare speak.</b> 598 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,439 <b>They have to go vote because</b> 599 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,680 <b>their attention is called to the factthat they must go vote.</b> 600 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,600 <b>Because if not...</b> 601 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,880 <b>So they create this terrible,vulnerable situation in Nyírbogát.</b> 602 00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:18,560 <b>This kind of dependency.</b> 603 00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:25,159 <b>She had us merge our medical practices,so now there's only one.</b> 604 00:39:25,479 --> 00:39:30,359 <b>I think she knew she coulduse this to play the tyrant.</b> 605 00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,720 <b>That everyone belongs to her - this can be very easily abused.</b> 606 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:41,319 <b>So she acquired power for herself - absolute power.</b> 607 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,239 <b>People are afraid she won't prescribetheir meds, that she won't see them,</b> 608 00:39:46,319 --> 00:39:50,520 <b>and then they have nowhere to goif they don't go vote, regardless.</b> 609 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,159 <b>- The occupational physician.- That's exactly how it is.</b> 610 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,680 <b>And she's the occupational physicianfor the public workers in the whole sub-region.</b> 611 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,079 <b>I've experienced going to other settlements,and they're afraid there too, because</b> 612 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:07,439 <b>Dr. Ildikó Rizsák from Nyírbogát is theirdoctor, and they're afraid</b> 613 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600 <b>they won't get their medical clearance.</b> 614 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,079 <b>If people come to collect signatures,they won't sign their names because</b> 615 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:20,680 <b>they're afraid she won't prescribe medicinefor them, or their family,</b> 616 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,880 <b>or their grandchild. There are widowsliving in this little street,</b> 617 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,560 <b>and everyone has children - they're afraid.</b> 618 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:35,720 <b>Who would have thought... a local GP?</b> 619 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000 <b>It's a nice monopoly - now everyone has to go to her.</b> 620 00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:40,640 <b>And the default stance is: "Shut your mouth."</b> 621 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,800 <b>"Are you voting for me?"</b> 622 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,359 <b>"You get your Algopyrin."</b> 623 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,760 <b>"No?"</b> 624 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,600 <b>"Your tooth is going to hurt!"</b> 625 00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:52,760 <b>ACCORDING TO FORMER GP MÁRIA DINKÓ, </b><b>SHE WAS FORCED OUT WITH FABRICATED ALLEGATIONS. </b> 626 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,880 <b>AT THE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION, THE COUNCIL THEN</b><b>REDUCED THE TOWN'S MEDICAL SERVICES TO JUST ONE PRACTICE.</b> 627 00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:00,760 <b>What's the situation with the nursing home?</b> 628 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,159 <b>Since that's theoretically part of it too, right?</b> 629 00:41:04,479 --> 00:41:10,000 <b>Yes, the staff definitely - the staffgo out to campaign, so...</b> 630 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,720 <b>I always say, if I everget to that point,</b> 631 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,680 <b>hang me from a treerather than put me in that home.</b> 632 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:22,000 <b>I don't know how they make the elderly vote;I haven't seen it myself, I don't know...</b> 633 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,239 <b>But they make sure they vote the right way.</b> 634 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,880 <b>Well, voting in the nursing homegoes like this: the staff</b> 635 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,159 <b>fill out the ballots on behalfof the elderly residents.</b> 636 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:41,960 <b>This goes completely againstelection law, and they make people vote</b> 637 00:41:42,279 --> 00:41:46,119 <b>who have disabilities like dementia -people who don't even</b> 638 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,880 <b>know what is happening around them,who aren't even allowed to vote.</b> 639 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,840 <b>It's in the law, but they make them vote anyway.</b> 640 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:59,560 <b>They don't really allowthe two members of the ballot counting committee,</b> 641 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,840 <b>who bring the mobile ballot box, to help the elderly - instead, it's the nurse working there.</b> 642 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:10,399 <b>If they don't find a nurse like thatin the nursing home,</b> 643 00:42:10,479 --> 00:42:16,359 <b>then they ask the relative to goto their elderly family member</b> 644 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,720 <b>and have them mark the "X" for them.</b> 645 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,159 <b>And if, say, the relative wouldn'tvote the way they want,</b> 646 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:27,000 <b>what are the threats? What would happen?</b> 647 00:42:27,399 --> 00:42:31,680 <b>The threat might be, for example,that the dementia patient is in such a state</b> 648 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,079 <b>that they can no longer accommodate them.</b> 649 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,840 <b>Exactly - and then they should findanother institution or take them home.</b> 650 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,279 <b>The guys went back to take somedistant wide shots of the nursing home.</b> 651 00:42:47,399 --> 00:42:51,119 <b>Then the Mayor claimedthat they wanted to climb the fence,</b> 652 00:42:51,279 --> 00:42:52,840 <b>and I don't know what elsethey wanted to do.</b> 653 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:54,760 <b>I wasn't there,but it's obviously absurd.</b> 654 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,119 <b>Yeah, a little video was made about that;I saw it.</b> 655 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,119 <b>A defamatory, smear video </b><b>is being prepared here in Nyírbogát.</b> 656 00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:06,279 <b>Two people unknown to us </b><b>appeared in front of our house</b> 657 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,439 <b>wearing fur hats </b><b>pulled down to their noses.</b> 658 00:43:09,439 --> 00:43:18,520 <b>They filmed our house, the clinic, </b><b>its entrance, and the parking lot for several long minutes.</b> 659 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,520 <b>- My respects, Madam Mayor.- Good day.</b> 660 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,359 <b>- Good day.</b> 661 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,560 <b>- Ildikó Rizsák.- Ádám Tompos.</b> 662 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,800 <b>- Nice to meet you.- Áron Tímár . Nice to meet you.</b> 663 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:33,960 <b>Can we do an interview?</b> 664 00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:37,520 <b>Thank you very much, I do not wishto take the opportunity.</b> 665 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,640 <b>MAYOR / DISTRICT GENERAL PRACTITIONER / PHARMACEUTICAL SUPPLIER / CURRENT PHYSICIAN FOR THE NURSING HOME / PRESIDENT OF THE RETIREES' ASSOCIATION / </b> 666 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,000 <b>PRESIDENT OF THE EAST NYÍRSÉG MICRO-REGIONAL ASSOCIATION / MEMBER OF THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY /</b> 667 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,760 <b>PRESIDENT OF "FOR A BETTER LIFE" LOCAL LEADER</b><b>ACTION GROUP (18 SETTLEMENTS) / </b> 668 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,439 <b>OCCUPATIONAL PHYSICIAN FOR THE REGION'S MAJOR COMPANIES / PRESIDENT OF THE BOGÁT 2000 GYMNASTICS CLUB</b> 669 00:43:47,439 --> 00:43:49,560 <b>HER HUSBAND, MIKLÓS SIMON, IS A FIDESZ MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON DEFENSE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, </b> 670 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,239 <b>AND PRESIDENT OF THE HOPORTYÓ HUNTING ASSOCIATION.</b> 671 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279 <b>No problem, Madam Mayor.- Thank you.</b> 672 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,840 <b>To what extent is the domination?</b> 673 00:43:55,399 --> 00:43:57,319 <b>Well, no - this isn't a Roma issue.</b> 674 00:43:58,359 --> 00:44:01,760 <b>I'm telling you, the Sicilianscome here for training.</b> 675 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:03,159 <b>This isn't a Roma issue.</b> 676 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,159 <b>I think someone is following us.</b> 677 00:44:09,479 --> 00:44:10,319 <b>Following?</b> 678 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,359 <b>Yes, for a while now.</b> 679 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,159 <b>And he's quite far behind.</b> 680 00:44:15,479 --> 00:44:17,640 <b>And as we slow down, he slows down too.</b> 681 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,199 <b>Okay, let's wait for him.</b> 682 00:44:28,399 --> 00:44:29,359 <b>Why are you filming me?</b> 683 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,920 <b>Do you like me?</b> 684 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,479 <b>- Yes.- Yes?</b> 685 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,920 <b>I'm filming nature.</b> 686 00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:34,720 <b>Yes?</b> 687 00:44:35,279 --> 00:44:36,800 <b>Then kiss my ass.</b> 688 00:44:37,479 --> 00:44:38,479 <b>Along with nature...</b> 689 00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:49,279 <b>- My respects!- I asked you for something...</b> 690 00:44:50,359 --> 00:44:51,399 <b>Wasn't I clear enough?</b> 691 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,520 <b>- You filthy people!- Why are you following us?</b> 692 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,560 <b>- We came out to the fields.- I came out to see my friend!</b> 693 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,960 <b>I see, so you're constantly behind us...</b> 694 00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,399 <b>- My friend lives here, he's a shepherd.- I understand.</b> 695 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520 <b>- Do you have friends everywhere we go?- Blah blah blah blah....</b> 696 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,600 <b>Thank you for the conversation.</b> 697 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,720 <b>Robin Rizák.</b> 698 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,479 <b>He's the Mayor's godson.</b> 699 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000 <b>Her driver and fixer, so to speak.</b> 700 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,279 <b>Her right-hand man.</b> 701 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,920 <b>So the Mayor sent her fixer after us.</b> 702 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:25,000 <b>A field guardóhe has a bunch of these "humbug" jobs,</b> 703 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,479 <b>you know, getting funds and money from the office.</b> 704 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:28,279 <b>Thank you.</b> 705 00:45:28,479 --> 00:45:34,199 <b>Listen, sorry, check how many </b><b>"small agricultural business" grants they piled on him.</b> 706 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,239 <b>You know, they're always stuffed </b><b>with these 15,000-euro grants.</b> 707 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,720 <b>Look, I'm checking the EU funds here:</b> 708 00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:41,840 <b> Leader [EU program]...</b> 709 00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,199 <b>on one hand, Róbert Rizsák, 14 million.</b> 710 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,560 <b>In '23.</b> 711 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,279 <b>Wait, wait, let me ask more.</b> 712 00:45:49,399 --> 00:45:51,760 <b>"For a Better Life Association."</b> 713 00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:53,760 <b>That's the Leader group.</b> 714 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:58,439 <b>Ildikó is the president; her assistant is a board member.</b> 715 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,960 <b>Their neighbor is Bakos, the one </b><b>who usually drives Miklós to Budapest -</b> 716 00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,000 <b>- he's the other board member.- Right, clear.</b> 717 00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,319 <b>And some half-wit is the fourth.</b> 718 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,920 <b>Well, this one got 19 million, okay.</b> 719 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:13,279 <b>"Together for Each Other in Nyírbogát" - that's 25 million.</b> 720 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,880 <b>That's the son-in-law's foundation;it just won 550 million recently, yes.</b> 721 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,600 <b>And he owns the Bátori Guesthouse too, the Elixir.</b> 722 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,720 <b>And you can link Zibelina and Junafebo Ltd. to him.</b> 723 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,159 <b>So they are the ones who </b><b>also own the Nyírbogát Supply Store.</b> 724 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,439 <b>Plus, these two companies also deal with construction work.</b> 725 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,920 <b>So if you look around the 6th district - say, in Érpatakó,</b> 726 00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:43,760 <b>you'll run into them either </b><b>as the bidder or the counter-bidder.</b> 727 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,079 <b>A family business.</b> 728 00:46:45,319 --> 00:46:49,399 <b>Yes, and then Nyírmedicina - that one is hers directly; that's 14 million.</b> 729 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,319 <b>Exactly.</b> 730 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,479 <b>- Through that, she provides the medical services, right?- Exactly.</b> 731 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,760 <b>And the pharmacy belongs here too; and we know</b> 732 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,680 <b>that in the 6th district, everyone has to buyeverything from this pharmacy.</b> 733 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,319 <b>- So this is the drug distribution center.- Clear.</b> 734 00:47:07,479 --> 00:47:11,119 <b>And everyone from the 32 settlements </b><b>has to buy from here, or woe to you.</b> 735 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,399 <b>Our Member of Parliament keeps </b> 736 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,039 <b>in constant contact with the mayors of the region.</b> 737 00:47:19,479 --> 00:47:25,760 <b>He comes and gives updates on politics,</b> 738 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,520 <b>and explicitly or implicitly, it is clearly expected of colleagues</b> 739 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,960 <b>to deliver the appropriate vote count in favor of Fidesz.</b> 740 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:45,199 <b>The MP calls and asks for certain vote numbers.</b> 741 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,039 <b>Then the mayor goes out to </b><b>the families and says: "You, </b> 742 00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:53,880 <b>you, and you,", </b><b>until he meets the number they asked of him,</b> 743 00:47:54,479 --> 00:47:57,039 <b>and he sends the people to vote.</b> 744 00:47:57,439 --> 00:48:04,000 <b>By showing the results of previous elections, </b><b>he urged them</b> 745 00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:08,800 <b>to make sure these numbers </b><b>don't get worse - only better.</b> 746 00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:15,319 <b>Of course, we know of cases where this failed after the 2022 elections,</b> 747 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,439 <b>and the mayor was indeed "dealt with."</b> 748 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,720 <b>The problem is that in this region, </b><b>this is an established order.</b> 749 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,520 <b>My colleagues accept this one hundred percent - </b> 750 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680 <b>that "well, he has to jump when Attila [the MP] whistles,"</b> 751 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,920 <b>because otherwise, there is no grant money.</b> 752 00:48:33,479 --> 00:48:37,359 <b>And perfectly intelligent, normal,grown adults accept this completely.</b> 753 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:40,560 <b>Yes?</b> 754 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,439 <b>Hello!</b> 755 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,100 <b>Yes?</b> 756 00:48:43,319 --> 00:48:45,279 <b>- Our company is back!- Alright.</b> 757 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279 <b>Let's do it this way, okay?Pull over immediately after the turn, okay?</b> 758 00:48:48,479 --> 00:48:49,840 <b>Good, okay.</b> 759 00:48:51,319 --> 00:48:53,359 <b>And I'll park right here, okay?</b> 760 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,479 <b>Get out!</b> 761 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,720 <b>Sir!</b> 762 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,399 <b>I told you!</b> 763 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,119 <b>I am a person performing law enforcement duties.</b> 764 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,720 <b>Stop filming!</b> 765 00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:22,119 <b>Sir, why are you harassing us? </b><b>I'm asking with all due respect.</b> 766 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,960 <b>I am a field guard.</b> 767 00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:24,279 <b>I understand, but where is the field here?</b> 768 00:49:24,359 --> 00:49:26,560 <b>And what were you doing there?</b> 769 00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,000 <b>Doing drugs, perhaps?</b> 770 00:49:28,279 --> 00:49:28,600 <b>What?</b> 771 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,279 <b>- Yes.</b><b>- We were doing what?</b> 772 00:49:29,279 --> 00:49:30,720 <b>- Were we doing drugs?</b><b>- I think you were doing drugs.</b> 773 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,279 <b>No.</b> 774 00:49:31,279 --> 00:49:32,199 <b>Yes, I think so.</b> 775 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,800 <b>Sir, there is no need for intimidation.</b> 776 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,159 <b>A civilized conversation.</b> 777 00:49:36,279 --> 00:49:38,239 <b>A civilized conversation, you... yeah.</b> 778 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,000 <b>So the question is why they arrested him </b><b>just now - if it's a coincidence,</b> 779 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600 <b>or if it's because we are here</b> 780 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,920 <b>and they want to prevent us from talking.</b> 781 00:49:57,319 --> 00:50:04,079 <b>They stopped me right at the Best Market - </b><b>the busiest spot, where everyone can see...</b> 782 00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,920 <b>I'm just asking why I have to stand here; </b><b>what's the problem?</b> 783 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,960 <b>He checked my ID; everything went </b><b>the way an ID check usually goes,</b> 784 00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:16,039 <b>and then I picked up the phone </b><b>to call - to say I'd been stopped, I'd be late,</b> 785 00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:20,720 <b>to have someone else take the interview, let's get it done somehow because you were waiting for us.</b> 786 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,920 <b>I can't use the phone, nothing - like I'm some criminal!</b> 787 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,079 <b>I respected that, of course, and I waited it out nicely,</b> 788 00:50:29,319 --> 00:50:32,319 <b>but the fact that it took nearly three hours, </b><b>and they only let me go...</b> 789 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:40,319 <b>When my son came up and said: "Mom, the press is gone, </b><b>the journalists are gone!"</b> 790 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600 <b>Then he nodded his head - like, okay, now she can go.</b> 791 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,359 <b>If a journalist appears, it has to be reported.</b> 792 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,880 <b>There is a political sensitivity </b><b>and a case-reporting obligation;</b> 793 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,640 <b>they'd already established the </b><b>identities and sent them to National Police HQ.</b> 794 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,840 <b>Or, if the Secret Services were involved,</b> 795 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,199 <b>then the information went straight to [Antal] Rogán.</b> 796 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,479 <b>- Be very careful with my face!- Very careful!</b> 797 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,600 <b>That's why I dressed like this.</b> 798 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,000 <b>Be very careful with my face!</b> 799 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,560 <b>How do you want your voice? High or deep?</b> 800 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,760 <b>- We'll make it very deep.- Make it very deep, that's right.</b> 801 00:51:24,399 --> 00:51:28,279 <b>Kids, even you should be careful - I'm just saying.</b> 802 00:51:29,479 --> 00:51:33,359 <b>I mean, the underworld people they have, you wouldn't...</b> 803 00:51:33,479 --> 00:51:37,239 <b>- What kind of underworld people do they have?- Let's not talk about it; forget it!</b> 804 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,479 <b>You have no idea what they are capable of!</b>